The fifth season of The Mind of a Chef, the documentary series from FR parent company Zero Point Zero, features Los Angeles–based chef and provocateur Ludo Lefebvre. In this clip from the new season, which begins this weekend on most PBS stations (check for your station and listings here), the classically trained chef behind such L.A. hot spots as Trois Mec and Trois Familia lets us in on the secret to his crispy, flaky, “not greasy” fried chicken sandwich, the signature from his latest hit restaurant, LudoBird. Tune in to the series for more insight into one of America’s best culinary minds, as well as many other surprises.